Magic in the Room #79: How to Develop Leaders with Greg Robinson
December 7, 2021
Every organization says they want good leaders. But what does it take to develop them?
How do people become leaders? In this episode of Magic in the Room, Luke, Chris, and special guest Greg Robinson discuss what it takes to build leaders in today’s organizations. Greg believes that developing leaders is deceptively simple. You have to teach them to listen inwardly and challenge their assumptions, mindset, and emotion, so they become the kind of person who does the right thing naturally. However, this is not easy work and requires courage, perseverance, and wisdom.
Dr. Greg Robinson is the Associate Professor of Outdoor Leadership Ministries at John Brown University. His experience includes working as the Program Director for HoneyRock, the Outdoor Center for Leadership Development of Wheaton College, as well as President of Challenge Quest, LLC in Pryor, Oklahoma, the Managing Member of Adventure Quest Recreation, LLC.
Greg has a Ph.D. in Organizational Behavior and Leadership from The Union Institute and University in Cincinnati, Ohio and an M.S. in Counseling from John Brown University.
Greg is the author of several books, including A Leadership Paradox: Influencing Others by Defining Yourself; Teams for a New Generation: A Facilitator’s Field Guide; Adventure and the Way of Jesus, Lessons of the Way: Using experiential activities to explore the way of Jesus; and Leading from Where You Are: How Every Person Can Help or Hinder a Collaborative Culture.
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